not pop punk but JAZZ!

[SOY DAN]

and hip hop, what cool fucking jazz music can anybody reccomend, and i also need some hip hop with unbelievable beats.. at this time. My only exposure to jazz is Cowboy Bebop's soundtrack (the Seatbelts) and Sun Ra. Not too bad of a place to start, the best my mind can come up with now for good hip hop is Stones Throw (kindof general), so if anybody can/wants to share... please do so

[JoeyMartin]

get some stan kenton and maynard ferguson, Theolonious Monk,

[Shotzi...]

Depends on what kind of jazz you like. I think Coltrane's A Love Supreme is my favorite jazz album, but there are tons of great ones. I like a lot of guitar jazz, too, like Tal Farlow and Wes Montgomery, etc...

[Read hard]

Four freshmen

[JoeyMartin]

Depends on what kind of jazz you like. I think Coltrane's A Love Supreme is my favorite jazz album, but there are tons of great ones. I like a lot of guitar jazz, too, like Tal Farlow and Wes Montgomery, etc...

if you try to get stuff by him, make sure you get the song west coast blues.

[SOY DAN]

get some stan kenton and maynard ferguson, Theolonious Monk,

Awesome #3  I know by name

Depends on what kind of jazz you like. I think Coltrane's A Love Supreme is my favorite jazz album, but there are tons of great ones. I like a lot of guitar jazz, too, like Tal Farlow and Wes Montgomery, etc...

Thats the hard part right now, defining my taste. Looking forward to this, i needed a reference point for Coltrane

Four freshmen

I thought they were a frat/garage group? but im checking em' out no matter what

remember im trusting your judgement here    jazz

[JoeyMartin]

download the song cherokee by count basie, shits epic.

[Skally Cat]

Coltrane is 60's bebop.


Start with Stan Getz, Cannonball Adderley, Charlie Parker, and if you're feeling kinky Charles Mingus.

[JoeyMartin]

Coltrane is 60's bebop.


Start with Stan Getz, Cannonball Adderley, Charlie Parker, and if you're feeling kinky Charles Mingus.

bebop is kind of like jazz still, so i think it counts.

[SOY DAN]

I'm not able to quote anybody right now but this all sounds good. I needed some input, im writing this down for checking out purposes as we speak

[Markonomicon]

Coltrane is 60's bebop.

You're retarded.

Start with:

John Coltrane 'Lush Life', 'Blue Train', 'My Favorite Things', 'A Love Supreme'
Coltrane/Davis 'Live In Stockholm'
Miles Davis 'Kind Of Blue'
Sun Ra 'Super-Sonic Jazz'
Charles Mingus 'Black Saint And The Sinner Lady'

[SOY DAN]

Hell yes, im going to mull over my new list with a ham sandwich, ill come back and listen to some, thanks for the reccomendations and take this time to really recognize just how cool you are. Jazzzz  lol Fuck yeah ps Bebop was what i was looking for specifically without realizing it entirely. Good shit boys, good shit

[JoeyMartin]

on a jazz note, why is jazz considered an american art form if it borrows musical ideas from all over the fucking world?

[SOY DAN]

on a jazz note, why is jazz considered an american art form if it borrows musical ideas from all over the fucking world?

because thats just what it is, no arguing with us. Because we matter the most?

[Shotzi...]

You're retarded.

Start with:

John Coltrane 'Lush Life', 'Blue Train', 'My Favorite Things', 'A Love Supreme'
Coltrane/Davis 'Live In Stockholm'
Miles Davis 'Kind Of Blue'
Sun Ra 'Super-Sonic Jazz'
Charles Mingus 'Black Saint And The Sinner Lady'

Seriously, Coltrane played some bebop but he was so much more than that. He was every bit as modal as Davis.

[dan]

on a jazz note, why is jazz considered an american art form if it borrows musical ideas from all over the fucking world?

probably because it started IN AMERICA.


This is pretty interesting.  Like "thrash jazz" at moments:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvFJp1WTVFU[/youtube]
I really like a lot of free jazz.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_jazz  <-- good place to start.

As far as more traditional jazz, Sonny Rollins - St. Thomas is a favorite:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4DTR0I7xhA[/youtube]

[dan]

Here's a couple more:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13L6sjk080c[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp5mZxkeV1c[/youtube]

[SOY DAN]

Dan I knew I could count on you for some good music.

I checked out two Coltrane tunes and they were both good but i definitely prefer Blue Train (which i think i may have heard before) to Lush Life. Im still diggin' in and enjoying it very much. Thanks

[Tical]

Some great stuff already mentioned (Mingus, Miles, Monk. Sun Ra is one of my favorites.) Something I was gonna mention I haven't seen yet would be Naked City's s/t album.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_City_%28album%29
It is some earlier John Zorn stuff and gets very...interesting, for parts. May not be something you fully dig, but if you want adventurous, this is a great album. You should check out Zorn's other stuff (there's a TON of it and it's very diverse - so don't give up if you don't like one thing he does).

[SOY DAN]

Some great stuff already mentioned (Mingus, Miles, Monk. Sun Ra is one of my favorites.) Something I was gonna mention I haven't seen yet would be Naked City's s/t album.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_City_%28album%29
It is some earlier John Zorn stuff and gets very...interesting, for parts. May not be something you fully dig, but if you want adventurous, this is a great album. You should check out Zorn's other stuff (there's a TON of it and it's very diverse - so don't give up if you don't like one thing he does).

awesome i like adventerous.

Sonny Rollins is pretty good, I only got halfway through Peter Brotzmann Octet but im listening again

[SweetBox]

Davis's Kind of Blue is fucking epic.

I really like Dizzy Gillespie and Charles Mingus.  I don't have albums by either of them really, just a collection of songs, but DG's "Salt Peanuts" is one of my favorite tunes and CM's "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is wonderful.

[SOY DAN]

Davis's Kind of Blue is fucking epic.

I really like Dizzy Gillespie and Charles Mingus.  I don't have albums by either of them really, just a collection of songs, but DG's "Salt Peanuts" is one of my favorite tunes and CM's "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is wonderful.

these sound good as hell too, and im hungry again so its time for some food

[Tical]

Davis's Kind of Blue is fucking epic.

I really like Dizzy Gillespie and Charles Mingus.  I don't have albums by either of them really, just a collection of songs, but DG's "Salt Peanuts" is one of my favorite tunes and CM's "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is wonderful.

saltpEAnuts! salt pEAnuts!

[Skally Cat]

You're retarded.

Tryin to keep it simple, Brohann Sebastian Bach, relax.



Pretty much find something on Blue Note and go wild.

[Read hard]

Is this dude any good?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Carlton